Podcast – Bouncing Back – EP 3 – Tough

Episode 3 looks at the realities of mixing life and business and how to look after yourself when things outside your control go wrong. From personal challenges to economic downturns it can be hard to find balance while running a business. ‘Tough’ explores the importance of looking after the most important asset to your business; you.

“Small business owners operate in an environment, in a society where part of the message to small business owners, this is really hard. It’ll be tough the first few years you have to give up your life. All of these quite negative messaging when you think of it.” – Patrice O’Brien

This episode is an in-depth discussion about how stressors of running a small business can impact your mental health and wellbeing, the realities of doing it tough while in business, and when to seek support.

Listen to Australian small business owners and experts including:

  • Julie Muir, celebrant
  • Pauline Nguyen, one of Australia’s most successful businesswomen and restaurateurs, co-founded award-winning restaurant, Red Lantern
  • Patrice O’Brien, General Manager of Workplace, Partnerships and Engagement at Beyond Blue
  • Leanne Faulkner, founded Billie Goat Soap.

I hope you’ve enjoyed listening to Episode 3 of this podcast series on Bouncing Back.

Below are links to further resources for small business people helping you to look after yourself and your business.

My Business Health


My Business Health


Ahead for Business


Beyond Blue


Beyond Blue Support small business owners to improve their mental health and wellbeing at work guide


Five Minute Mental Health Check-Up (Ahead for Business)



It’s such a pleasure to host this wonderful series on Bouncing Back and speak with all these amazing Australian small business people about there journey and experiences.


  • Setbacks and challenges are an inevitable part of running a small business.
  • There is no one-size-fits-all approach and mistakes happen.
  • Failing is a normal part of life and often teaches us the most important business lessons.
  • ‘It’s not failure holding us back – it’s our view of failure’.
  • It is important to reach out for support when you are struggling.
  • It is normal to need to ask for help from time to time.

Thank you to Sound Cartel and the Australian Government Department of Industry, Science, Energy and Resources

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