Podcast – Bouncing Back – EP 4 – Relationships

Welcome to Episode 4 of Bouncing Back.  This episode is a discussion of what is core to any business; relationships. Whether they be with employees, contractors, or your family and friends, relationships are foundational to any successful business. However, they can also be the thing that makes running a business challenging and stressful. Managing these relationships effectively can be a steep and unexpected learning curve for those entering the small business world.

“The reality is it doesn’t matter how knowledgeable or skilled somebody is, the impact that they have in our business comes down to how well their capabilities are actually applied, and how well we apply our capabilities comes down to the way we behave.” – Karen Gately

Our guests discuss how effective relationships inside and outside the business are a key part of success and the importance of having people around you that can help keep you and your business on track.

Listen to Australian small business owners and experts including:

  • Dominic Crawley, founder and CEO of BASECON
  • Sue Brian, Daisy Cow Soap
  • Rob Hartnett, business adviser, leadership expert and author of ‘It’s All Possible’.
  • Karen Gately, Advisor, Media Commentator and author of ‘The Corporate Dojo’.

I hope you’ve enjoyed listening to Episode 4 of this podcast series on Bouncing Back.

Below are links to further resources for small business people helping you to look after yourself and your business.

My Business Health


My Business Health


Ahead for Business


Beyond Blue


Beyond Blue Support small business owners to improve their mental health and wellbeing at work guide


Five Minute Mental Health Check Up (Ahead for Business)



It’s such a pleasure to host this wonderful series on Bouncing Back and speak with all these amazing Australian small business people about there journey and experiences.


  • Setbacks and challenges are an inevitable part of running a small business.
  • There is no one-size-fits-all approach and mistakes happen.
  • Failing is a normal part of life and often teaches us the most important business lessons.
  • ‘It’s not failure holding us back – it’s our view of failure’.
  • It is important to reach out for support when you are struggling.
  • It is normal to need to ask for help from time to time.

Thank you to Sound Cartel and the Australian Government Department of Industry, Science, Energy and Resources

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